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Ok, so you're post-Bear.

You're so post-Bear you're post-post-post-Bear.

So why in the fuck are you still on Bear411, BearCiti, BearForest, BigMuscleBears and HipperThanThouBears.com?

Take your condecension and your affected attitude and leave or just come out and fess up to the fact you're looking for dick, you post-Bear, hipster, no-talent aside from sarcasm, on the upper curve of hideous looking muther effin' scumbag.

Thank you. I will now continue to enjoy the hirsute male without you making me feel like a plebe for it.

Fucktard.

Date: 2007-04-17 08:55 pm (UTC)

Date: 2007-04-17 08:59 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ericdabear.livejournal.com
(in general that is. I'm not exactly sure who you might be talking about specifically.)

Date: 2007-04-17 09:06 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] pensivegargoyle.livejournal.com
If they really wanted to be post-bear, they'd go on a diet and have themselves waxed. :P

Date: 2007-04-17 09:09 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] quirkstreet.livejournal.com
I'm not post-bear, I'm pre-fabulous. ;-)
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WOW

Date: 2007-04-17 09:14 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] jdawg1974.livejournal.com
I dunno who we're talking about, but *in my bestest ghetto voice* "you go grrrrl!"

LOL

LOL!

Date: 2007-04-17 09:15 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kcfireplug.livejournal.com
Too funny.

But I've tried to be over it myself.

But I just can't say no to beautiful bear dick, now can I.

I'm doomed.

:-)

Re: LOL!

Date: 2007-04-18 01:32 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] vianegativa.livejournal.com
lol. I sent the fellow in question this message:

"Whatever. Bow down & worship BEAR COCK!"

Thank you for the inspiration.

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One more thing...

Date: 2007-04-17 09:31 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kcfireplug.livejournal.com
You should post this in [livejournal.com profile] badbearprofiles

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Date: 2007-04-17 09:33 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] pensivegargoyle.livejournal.com
Oooh...I didn't know that existed, I'll have to look!

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Date: 2007-04-17 10:55 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] benpanced.livejournal.com
If only to respond to your icon with my icon...

Date: 2007-04-17 09:48 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] bookbear.livejournal.com
What, yer not gonna call him out by name?!

Date: 2007-04-18 12:53 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] vianegativa.livejournal.com
No. If it would have an impact on him I might, but this chump is so insulated in the coccoon of his own ego that calling him out would be pointless and reinforce an already raging martyr complex.

Date: 2007-04-17 09:49 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] polardemonwolf.livejournal.com
ZOMG. Post-Bear? Who'd wanna be Post-Bear? I'm still in the Pre-Bear phase...


*bounces across the room*

Date: 2007-04-17 09:52 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] redbullbear1968.livejournal.com
Can you really be post bear?
What does post bear mean?
Am I post straight?
Was I ever straight?
Am I bear now?
Do I decide?
God this is complicated.

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Date: 2007-04-17 10:28 pm (UTC)
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Thats just messed up..
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Date: 2007-04-17 10:25 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] marinebear.livejournal.com
heh tell us how you really feel sweetness :)
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Date: 2007-04-18 01:13 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] canowhupass.livejournal.com
OMG! There is a Marvel MMORPG coming? Dude.... seriously, that's awesome.

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Doooood...

Date: 2007-04-17 10:57 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] benpanced.livejournal.com
I am so pre-post-post-Bear, I don't even fucking exist any longer!

Date: 2007-04-17 11:57 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] e-ticket.livejournal.com
*no-talent aside from sarcasm*

THAT made me laugh. Best. Observation. Ever. :)

And while I agree with your rant, philisophically I think the "post-bear-movement" was always just that, "in quotes". I, for one, never heard *anyone* use it without tongue firmly planted in cheek until a few months ago, and it was clear then that most people are dumb and have no sense of humor. :)

I'm all for the fat hairy dick. I can do without the guest bed covered in teddy bears, but I certainly don't judge someone based on that alone. :)

Date: 2007-04-18 01:01 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] vianegativa.livejournal.com
You see, a guest bed full of teddy bears is the equivalent to me of posting a sign saying: "YOU MAY END UP IN MY CROCK POT."

I've had baaaad experiences with guys who overly embraced le cuteness of beardom. Or beardumb. Whatever. :-)

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Um... right!

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One more thing

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Date: 2007-04-18 01:10 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] analog-guy.livejournal.com
Someone said they were disappointed in you for going to Bear Pride?

They have MET you, haven't they? You're a social butterfly. (And no, I'm not talking - or just talking - about where playtime is concerned.)

I'm post-bear, I think...but no matter where I'm at, I don't want to shit on someone else's parade. I may not join it, but I don't need to mark my opinion all over it, either. I don't wanna be what, to me, a Plastic Bear or a Heather Bear is - a group of people who define themselves simply on who they can reject and make fun of (or how many people they can reject and write off). That isn't a pretty sight when it's twelve-year old girls; watching fat hairy men do it is disturbing. Bitches need to live and let live.

Date: 2007-04-18 01:27 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] vianegativa.livejournal.com
Heather Bears.

You so have my undying love for that tag.

The point is, I am done with people being judgemental or high-handed because I choose to go to a bear run where I see my friends! I mean, fuck all, do I bombard them when they want to sit in bad coffeehouses, talk about beating fake coke addictions and snap their fingers to REALLY bad poetry? No.

(Well maybe a little)

BTW, I can totally be a heather bear. I SO own that. I should have a shirt.

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Date: 2007-04-18 01:44 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] canowhupass.livejournal.com
I'm still full-on Bear or whatever you call it when you aren't pre-bear or post-bear and don't really care what label you put on yourself but still go to bear events to hang out with friends and meet guys. Maybe that's called being happy? I'm not sure what you call it, but that's what I am.

I'm sure the these post-bear fellas, and I've seen a few of them, wouldn't know happiness because they are too caught up in rejecting those who rejected them for being rejected or whatever you call it when your bitter. What it all comes down to is that I don't really care, but this guy obviously wants drama & pity and is a bottomless pit of emotional need. No one labels themselves as post-high school, or post-single, or post-diet and then shows up in the very places he claims to reject. For all the "post-bears" out there, here's a new label for ya: Post-interested. Which is what I am about you and your angsty-self-pity-drama.

Date: 2007-04-18 02:29 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] baeritone.livejournal.com
I guess you're post-compassion.

I myself talk to whomever I want, whenever I want, and fuck anyone who doesn't like it. That's why, if a label must be applied, I would be post-bear - but I guess that post-exclusionist is a better one. In the end, it only means one thing - I'm not going to kowtow to ANY single group's purposeless demands about who is acceptable and who isn't. If you're interesting, I'll talk to you. Easy as pie.

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Date: 2007-04-18 01:54 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] userid1999.livejournal.com
I made a post about this a couple weeks ago. I'm personally fascinated by the emergence of the "post-bear" phenomenon. And I wonder if it's coming on somewhat as a response to the "mainstreaming" of the gay community.

(Of course, there's also "post-bear" as in "better than everyone else" too.)

Date: 2007-04-18 02:18 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] baeritone.livejournal.com
I wrote this entry on the post-bear subject back in March:

http://baeritone.livejournal.com/313377.html

I guess I'm mostly just disappointed in what we've become. Weren't we formed originally to fight pointless exclusion?

I'm growing tired, I think.

Date: 2007-04-18 03:14 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] vianegativa.livejournal.com
We're the new version of 60's hippies.

It's inevitable; most subcultures have a core holdfast that grok the original intent of the movement, but as mainstream media and society legitimize a subculture through acknowledgement, new adherents come into the subculture who have a perception of that same subculture through the lens of an outside influence.

You think it's bad NOW? Just wait for a few more issues of A Bear's Life, which for good or ill will be deemed by people outside Beardom as "the" pulse of our subculture.

My solution is this: I was there at the beginning. I'm for inclusion, I practice it, and I try to be accepting and not label folks. Many of my friends do the same. Remain true to the core ideas of the culture, but don't let false latter-day perceptions of "what is bear" force you to abandon what's, at the heart of it all, a good thing.

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