Foundations of Fear
Mar. 31st, 2005 09:06 amSo, I have an idea germinating in my fevered brain about a D20 Modern game setting. The key concept though is something I need to delve into further as I'm trying to create archetypes of monsters by using archetypes of modern human psychological fear.
It's not to hard to pair off a classic monster archetype with an associated set of fears, both Primary or Secondary, but I'm really trying to get a better handle on some fears we have as a modern society so I can work with those in my game.
Some relatively apparent breakdowns are:
Zombies-- Fear of Loss of Individuality; Fear of Being Consumed/Predation; Fear of Disease
Vampires-- Fear of Being Consumed/Predation; Fear of Disease; Fear of Degradation?
Werewolves/Werefolk-- Fear of Being Consumed/Predation; Fear of Losing Self-Control
Frankenstein-- Fear of Perverted Nature; Fear of Perverted Science
"Aliens" Movies-- Fear of Perverted Nature; Fear of Being Consumed/Predation
Witches-- Fear of Powerlessness
These are just a few examples. The big Kahuna fear FEAR OF DEATH isn't up there because I really think that's a fair constant in the human condition. As a given, I don't think I need to point it out.
So what I'm digging for are what are some fears we have in modern society? Fear od disease? Fear of senseless violence? What scares the beejezus out of us these days? Or are we still as primal and raw in our psychology as we were in front of the first fire so long ago?
I'd appreciate any thoughts from my friends on this.
It's not to hard to pair off a classic monster archetype with an associated set of fears, both Primary or Secondary, but I'm really trying to get a better handle on some fears we have as a modern society so I can work with those in my game.
Some relatively apparent breakdowns are:
Zombies-- Fear of Loss of Individuality; Fear of Being Consumed/Predation; Fear of Disease
Vampires-- Fear of Being Consumed/Predation; Fear of Disease; Fear of Degradation?
Werewolves/Werefolk-- Fear of Being Consumed/Predation; Fear of Losing Self-Control
Frankenstein-- Fear of Perverted Nature; Fear of Perverted Science
"Aliens" Movies-- Fear of Perverted Nature; Fear of Being Consumed/Predation
Witches-- Fear of Powerlessness
These are just a few examples. The big Kahuna fear FEAR OF DEATH isn't up there because I really think that's a fair constant in the human condition. As a given, I don't think I need to point it out.
So what I'm digging for are what are some fears we have in modern society? Fear od disease? Fear of senseless violence? What scares the beejezus out of us these days? Or are we still as primal and raw in our psychology as we were in front of the first fire so long ago?
I'd appreciate any thoughts from my friends on this.
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Date: 2005-03-31 04:01 pm (UTC)How about Fear of Failure / Success?
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Date: 2005-03-31 05:54 pm (UTC)Flying #2 pencils... and being sucked into one of the filled in circles on the test paper.
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Date: 2005-03-31 03:57 pm (UTC)The primal fears are still there but as we have advanced technologically so have the level of complexity of our fears. I think we are approaching an overlaod stage as a society...look at all the stress and mentally related illnesses. There are fears we can comprehend and that may be why the world is f*cked up the way it is.....too much information and not having the capacity to use it constructively.
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Date: 2005-03-31 04:57 pm (UTC)Then there is the guilt-driven revenge slasher genre, best typified in its non-supernatural form by Fatal Attraction. All of us fear that some indiscretion in the past will come back to haunt us; in these movies, it does so spectacularly.
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Date: 2005-03-31 05:29 pm (UTC)I'm pleasantly surprised by your observations.
I'm noting in your ideas that there is no real fear representing spritual jeopardy. I suppose the fires of Hell qualify somewhat,but all those punishments are traditionally presented as physical tortures; perhaps it's because the concept of spiritual torment is so far removed from our realm of experience that most folk simply cannot related unless it's termed in pains of the body.
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Date: 2005-03-31 06:48 pm (UTC)I think everyone is capable of understanding the threat posed by psychological or emotional torment, which is why hell was always depicted in those terms when I was growing up. There was never a mention of brimstone and devils with pitchforks; hell was separation from God--forever. All of us knew enough about loneliness and abandonment at that point to be terrified enough at this thought. It helps that the Christian tradition basically characterises God largely through parental metaphors, so projecting the fear of losing parental love onto a cosmic scale is not a stretch at all.
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Date: 2005-03-31 07:47 pm (UTC)To relate it to role-playing game terms, it's why the loss of Humanity score as consequence was and is the greatest failing of the Vampire game. Only those who truly comprehend what that might be like dread it. Other players trample across it greedily in a race for more power or juvenile gratification.
As a culture, we are only taught to comprehend the immediate, physical world and the dangers therein. As God's love is not a quantifiable resource, it's hard to get most people worked up in fear over something they have no practical comprehension of; that's why the fall-back metaphor of any religion that touts punishment for sins is always physical.
I'm happy to hear your church taught the spiritual implication of damnation as opposed to making it sound like a Disneyland for the Marquis d' Sade, but you're getting a benefit most folks never enjoy.
Simply put, if you were to give most folks the choice of the death of the soul as opposed to physical death, primitive reaction takes over to preserve the organism. For most, spiritual terror can only be framed in terms of physical experience, and even then it's a topic for drawing room debate at best.
Just a thought.
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Date: 2005-03-31 09:58 pm (UTC)This is not a trope that is foreign to horror films. How many end with Our Hero being dragged off by the men in white coats, screaming "YOU GOTTA BELIEVE ME!!" as others regard him with pity or utter indifference? You could call this horror of mental illness (a physical condition) or fear of imprisonment (loss of physical autonomy), but I think it's the isolation from others, the pain of being utterly ignored that really gives it its kick.
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Date: 2005-03-31 05:52 pm (UTC)This is easy with the zoological fears... it's the abstracts that you have to work on... things like fear of heights, fear of enclosed spaces, fear of crowds, etc.
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Date: 2005-04-01 01:18 am (UTC)And something that's definitely a modern fear is the loss or invasion of one's privacy. Interestingly, it's often paired with a desire to invade/probe someone else's privacy. An archetypical monster representing this would probably be a Psychic/Telepath. Most popular media that I'm aware of (aside from RPG material that allows one to *be* a psychic) cast telepaths as inherently creepy, if not outright evil.
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Date: 2005-04-01 06:25 am (UTC)Vampires: Fear of exposure/being exposed
Frankenstein's Monster: again Fear of not being able to communicate our thoughts/wishes
Witches: Fear of power structures (The Man)
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