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People move in patterns; habits and behaviors become rote and become repeated from place to place, situation to situation. At times I feel a certain sadness watching people fall into the same tiger traps year after year...

Now, however? I'm on the verge of feeling vindicated. We'll see how it plays out, but I think I know how this dance will end.

I'm feeling schaddenfraude I suppose...

Date: 2007-05-17 02:46 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] muckefuck.livejournal.com
Schaddenfraude? Is that the pleasure one feels at pulling off a fast one involving tasty small fish?

Date: 2007-05-17 02:53 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] arshermetica.livejournal.com
Precisely! Only....not at all.

Schadenfreude is german, basically means 'taking pleasure from anothers misfortune'

Schaden = harm
freude = joy
Joy from Harm

And as for why I felt the need for the german lesson? I'll never bloddy know.

Date: 2007-05-17 02:58 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] grunter.livejournal.com
This is tremendously funny in soooo many ways . . .

Date: 2007-05-17 02:59 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] arshermetica.livejournal.com
Oh god, do I have something in my teeth again? I fucking KNEW I shouldn't have eaten out the Jolly Green Giant before coming on stage today.

Hate when that happens

Date: 2007-05-17 03:27 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] muckefuck.livejournal.com
Wenn manche wüsste was mancher weiss
Würd ihr kalt und würd ihr heiss!

Date: 2007-05-17 03:55 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] arshermetica.livejournal.com
wooo whoo!! I'm not as amazingly rusty as i'd thought. I got coldly but wasn't sure about hotly

Date: 2007-05-17 04:45 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] muckefuck.livejournal.com
Und das Übrige?

Date: 2007-05-17 11:14 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] pensivegargoyle.livejournal.com
This explains the concept nicely -

Date: 2007-05-17 04:10 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] vianegativa.livejournal.com
So I misspelled it... it's another language! Oy.

Date: 2007-05-17 04:42 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] muckefuck.livejournal.com
Nobody held a garlic press to your nuts and forced you to use it, WFB.

Date: 2007-05-17 05:21 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] muckefuck.livejournal.com
Wikipedia es tu amigo. (The process of elimination is left as an exercise for the student.)

Date: 2007-05-17 05:28 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] vianegativa.livejournal.com
Dood, you callin' me a Buddhist? Them's fighting words...

Date: 2007-05-17 05:37 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] muckefuck.livejournal.com
Settle down! If I were, it'd be one of them Diamond Mind, 80-Arhat-Fist, ass-kicking Buddhists, not some incense-burning, mantra-chanting, lighting-himself-on-fire, pansy-ass Buddhist.

Date: 2007-05-17 05:48 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] vianegativa.livejournal.com
Do you think they lit themselves on fire when China rolled tanks over them because they thought they'd explode?

Ok, I'm going to hell for that one.

Date: 2007-05-17 05:51 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] muckefuck.livejournal.com
Which one? (The Buddhists have a lot of hells.)

Date: 2007-05-17 03:32 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] grande.livejournal.com
a quote about residing in glass houses with a supply of rocks comes to mind here...

Date: 2007-05-17 04:12 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] grande.livejournal.com
i'm not trying to be snarky, lest the point be made somehow less legitimate, but might i suggest staying away from making fun of others patterns of behaviors and their pitfalls?

Date: 2007-05-17 04:24 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] vianegativa.livejournal.com
I understand I move in patterns too; however my patterns generally don't leave ruin and emotional devastation in their wake. Still, feeling odd satisfaction at someone else being screwed by obvious circumstances isn't making fun of the situation.

Date: 2007-05-17 04:27 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] grande.livejournal.com
its not? would you begrudge someone for enjoying seeing you miserable? seems a touch self righteous.

Date: 2007-05-17 04:32 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] vianegativa.livejournal.com
No, it's not. feeling a certain way about a situation isn't derogatory; you know this. Even discussing my feelings of satisfaction aren't. Now if I pointed out the people and obvious blindness of the parties involved, that would be.

At to feeling hurt if people enjoy seeing me miserable: Um, hello?

Dude, there are people who break out pinatas & maracas when I'm even a little bit down. It's their deal, I don't really care.

Not to be snarky either, but since when are you the forgive & forget type?

Date: 2007-05-17 04:40 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] grande.livejournal.com
I'm trying my best these days to really not enjoy things like that. I'm not really saying to forget anything, but why get involved period? It's unhealthy. Why take that step beyond forgiving? It's too close to malicious if you ask me.

Don't get me wrong, I'm not saying you're a bad person for this. I've done it in the past, but I'm finding that these kinds of things have a huge potential for snowballing into much larger things. I also think it self encourages and perhaps even a bit of self over indulgence, which I believe we both suffer as character flaws.

I don't want to get into personal details in a public venue, so we can go into details later if you want. I just don't think that being 'evily amused' is really something to be proud or even happy about.

Date: 2007-05-17 05:00 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] vianegativa.livejournal.com
Saying overindulgence is a character flaw of mine is like saying Karen Carpenter was a bit on the thin side. :-)

You know, this does go to the high road/low road side of things and personally I don't begrudge myself a little amusement from the follies of oothers every now & again. Were I a vivacious gossip I might be a little more concerned but I've kept my mouth shut & been diplomatic enough times not to worry about the occasional malevolent indulgence.
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Date: 2007-05-17 05:20 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] vianegativa.livejournal.com
It's not so much that I'm abandoning the concept of trying to be better, but GEEZ. I am allowed occasional forays into bitchery

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